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Episode 24: The One With Carrie, Miranda and Charlotte
In this episode of Snitchin, we discuss relationship crossroads, TV series endings, podcast drama, and celebrity incidents while deep-diving into Summer I Turned Pretty.
• The Sex and the City sequel series "And Just Like That" confirms its ending after season 3
• We analyze how SATC's characters evolved and share our favorite male characters from the original series
• Alex Earl seemingly confirms a feud with Alex Cooper after leaving Unwell Network
• Mandy Moore calls out a hit-and-run driver who rear-ended her family then fled
• Summer I Turned Pretty episode 4 recap: Belly and Jeremiah face family opposition to their engagement
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Ready, ready. Hey everyone, welcome back to the latest episode of Snitchin' it's your host, kristen.
Speaker 2:And Brittany, get ready for the best part of your day.
Speaker 1:Hey Snitches, hey Snitches. Another week We've made it to August. Hard to believe.
Speaker 2:I know Summer's basically over now. It's about to slip away like a bottle of wine before we even know it. How was your weekend, britt? It was good, pretty low key after going to San Diego. We had a couple birthday parties yesterday and Kristen and I had a little snitches business meeting on Saturday. So more fun stuff coming for you guys. Stay tuned.
Speaker 1:I was over. Yeah, how about you? It was good. It was good. Sorry I was. I was just going to say that I was over at Gina's house and Bill was like it was roasting us for having a business meeting. He's like what business are you doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like no, we like did stuff, like yeah.
Speaker 2:Losers Chris gave Bill that ammo. Oh meeting, because like that's what I call it.
Speaker 1:so that's what chris calls it, and he was like oh yeah, I forgot to other people. That's like funny or whatever. Yeah, yeah, they have business meeting, but yeah, of course, bill loved that. Yeah, the haters are furious, furious, um, so should we get right into it, let's do it.
Speaker 2:Oh actually, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait before we get into it.
Speaker 1:I wanted to ask about coffee date, man oh yeah, just an update yeah, I know it's wanted to ask about coffee date man. Oh yeah, an update. Yeah, I know it's been a while. Um, coffee date man is still. It's still going well. So he's been in Michigan for the past week, so things are going good. I mean, it's still very like casual. I feel like that's been one of the best things about him and I for this whole summer is that he's still kind of figuring out his next move. So it's just been very like low commitment and honestly like dating someone without the pressure of like the next step, like are we going to be exclusive, are we? It's been really really great. So so I don't know, I think we'll. We're just going to wait to see what he comes back and like what his plan is, but yeah, so far, so good.
Speaker 2:Sounds like kind of a. Sounds like kind of like a pivotal moment. In a way that you're I feel like you're kind of transitioning out of that like fun, easy, like you know, not introducing him to anyone face.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know, Well, you've asked me. My sister asked me this weekend. She was like so cause my birthday's next week and we're planning to go to the driving range. And yeah, I've started to get a couple of questions like, oh, are you going to invite coffee date? Like is he going to come? Uh, I, I would be a lot.
Speaker 1:It's I, that's the thing. Like that's not the best place to meet him. I don't know, We'll see. I think I have to see him. I definitely don't want the first time that I see him like when he gets back to be there. Yeah no, when does he get back? Well, he's driving back, so at some point this week Sounds terrible. Why would he drive? I don't know. He said he drove out there. It takes him like two days and he's driving back.
Speaker 2:Wolf. Yeah, I guess that's what you do when you live in Michigan. They probably drive a lot already.
Speaker 1:It is a big like automobile industry place. True.
Speaker 2:Detroit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, true, so but yeah, that's what's going on. We're still seeing each other, still hanging out. He's a very, very nice, sweet, yeah, like he's a really really nice guy. So I've definitely been liking hanging out with him. But I think this week is will be kind of like a turning point. One way or the other either kind of call it quits or, you know, decide if we're going to try to be a little bit more serious. So I will definitely be keeping you all posted, you know, as that happens.
Speaker 2:Yay, I'm rooting for him, I'm rooting for you. Coffee Date man. If you found this podcast yet, which I feel like you haven't, but maybe on that long drive. I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 1:That's another thing I like about him is that like he's pretty I don't know. He's pretty straightforward, like I don't really I'm very like honest with him. Um, not that I'm not honest with other people, but I don't know. You know, like you kind of you're trying to like present your best self. I feel like I'm pretty direct with him and I've asked him more than once. I'm like have you really found it for real?
Speaker 2:He's like no, I haven't.
Speaker 1:I have no idea Like well, so then I was thinking too, like he did tell me that he told his sister about me and she has seen my Facebook page.
Speaker 2:he said so yeah, she's about to find this shit.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I was like, okay. Well, if the women are involved, then there's a high likelihood that someone in or around his family has found this just a matter of time. It's just, I mean, once you get the girls investigating, we basically are all fbi agents. So, exactly, yeah, that might be changing. Um, so if you are listening to this, you're awesome and sorry, sorry that I'm talking publicly about you. I hope he hears it. We'll see, but anywho, that's the scoop on that, moving on starting out with our first story and, just like that, ending after three seasons.
Speaker 1:On Friday, august 1st, michael Patrick King, who's the creator of the show, also creator of I think he was the creator of Sex and the City, which is the original show that, just like that, is a sequel he said SJP, sarah Jessica Parker and I held off announcing the news until now because we didn't want the world final to overshadow the fun of watching the word final to overshadow the fun of watching the season. So basically, he didn't tell fans that this was going to be the final season, even though they both knew earlier in the series which, um, it's annoying yeah, it.
Speaker 1:Basically. It seems like they're trying to make it seem like it wasn't canceled, that they are just coming to this creative resolution that it's the natural time to end the show. Have you watched this new show?
Speaker 2:and just like yeah, I haven't watched the latest season, but I watched the last two what are your thoughts on the, on the show in general?
Speaker 2:I mean, I feel like I had kind of a skewed perception because like when it first came out, everyone was like it's terrible, it sucks, it sucks, it's terrible so I was like I'm just gonna watch it just to see, and so like I kind of felt like I was like pleasantly surprised because I had like low expectations and I like how the characters are like so similar old characters. I'm also not a big girl, so I feel like like Gina is obsessed with Big and she like couldn't watch it because spoiler alert Big dies in the first one or two episodes. So that didn't really bother me. That was part of it. I hated that steve left I know I hate miranda's whole like journey.
Speaker 2:I mean I I'm I'm happy for her, whatever, but I just love steve. Yeah, I'd say it's okay. It's like I don't rush to watch it if it's, if they have, if I need to. I think it's like a half hour episodes which are easy.
Speaker 1:So I watched season one. I agree with you, I didn't like hate I, but I do love Steve and I was so and I feel like in the movie, sex in the city. Like Miranda and Steve went through that infidelity and, like you know, came back stronger than ever. I just hate that they always break this couple up Cause he's one of my oh yeah, why I don't know Like I feel like Steve is like everyone's favorite male character.
Speaker 2:Legit, like everyone's rooting for Steve.
Speaker 1:I can understand Well. So part of the criticism for the show is that they're trying to make it quote, unquote woke. This is like what I read, but like without really like, which I can appreciate because times are different, right, Like we're not in the nineties, like we are in a new day and age, and so maybe they do want to represent that.
Speaker 1:I get that, but they were saying that it was like kind of done without really good character development or you know, like it was just kind of done just to do it without making the storyline actually good or make a ton of sense. Yeah, yeah, but Miranda's lover in the first season, Che just wasn't that likable of a character, yeah totally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good point. I was going to say, though, with the woke thing. The only thing I'll say about that is I feel like I can't appreciate. I feel like a big part of Sex and the City is being really modern and current and culturally relevant and when it first came out it was all about women breaking boundaries and talking about relevant. And, like you know, when it first came out it was all about like women breaking boundaries and like talking about sex and like showing sex on tv. So like I get kind of like why they felt like they had to lean into like the wokeness a little bit from that standpoint. But yeah, like to your point, I feel like they just like didn't do a good job, like why break up miranda and steve? Like they should have just had che be like their own character or I don't know. I also will say I like the other two characters.
Speaker 1:I forget their names, I don't even see, I don't even because I watched the first season, but I watched a couple of years ago. I kind of remember Charlotte's new friend.
Speaker 2:The new ones are Sarita oh, I don't know, seema Patel is her name in the show and then Lisa Todd Wexley. Okay, yeah, lisa todd wexley is married to george washington from hamilton oh, no way yeah, the guy is george. George washington from hamilton, so I love that I love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, heck. Yeah, I love that. Did you see that aiden's back for this season?
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean I hope, as I watched last season and he was like very much a part of it. Oh, he was, he was in season two. Yeah, yeah, they like got together in season two.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I would assume he's in season three what are your favorite male characters, like on sex in the city, like your top three?
Speaker 2:um, I mean definitely steve. Steve, I would say, what's his name? Who is? Oh my god, what's her name? Kim cattrall oh, samantha samantha. What's her boyfriend?
Speaker 1:oh um smith yeah, jared smith smith, jared, whatever it is. Yes, oh, I kind of forgot about him. Yeah, aiden, yeah, aiden's a great one. Um, I like I always am into miranda guys. I loved Steve. I loved Dr Robert. Do you remember him? Blair Underwood, he was like Miranda's neighbor. He gave her the cookie cake, a coach, or?
Speaker 2:something. He was a basketball coach or something.
Speaker 1:He was the physical trainer, like, yeah, the personal trainer or a trainer for the Knicks, like a team. Yeah, okay, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, he's trainer for the Knicks, like a team. Yeah, okay, yeah, I remember that yeah, he was good. Oh my God, I loved him.
Speaker 1:I loved his whole storyline, but I loved season six. I would say those two. I also liked. I liked Aiden. I definitely agree with you. I'm more of an Aiden girl than a big girl. I was never that big on the big train, but I'm trying to think of who else that she dated. I didn't hate Berger until they broke up. Do you remember Jack Berger?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was okay. I think the Post-it Note breakup episode is one of the best episodes of that whole series.
Speaker 2:True, that is like a very memorable moment in the show. It's so funny. Yeah, I didn't hate. Like Alexander Prostrovsky, is that how you say? His last name too? The guy she goes to Paris with. I mean I feel like he. I don't like love him, but I didn't like hate him.
Speaker 1:No, he was not. I didn't like him, I don't know why. Yeah, he was not not for me. Oh, I know I would say more than Aiden Harry, I love Harry. Oh yeah, how about Harry? Yeah, I like Harry. So I would say those are my top three Steve, dr Robert and then Harry.
Speaker 2:And mine were Steve Smith, jared or Jared Smith, can't remember and Aiden. Yeah, so did Big not want to be on the show. Is that why they killed him off, you think?
Speaker 1:I think that they did it because they needed a reason to have the show. Is that why they killed him off? You think I think that they did it because, like they needed a reason to have the show again, like they need to show carrie, kind of starting over again, you know, with like a new journey, a new um.
Speaker 1:That's too bad, yeah, but he also chris, not the actor. It was right around the same time and I I haven't looked this up so I would have to like check myself on this but it came out that he had some, you know, sexual misconduct or sexual harassment, something, some type of allegation against him. So I don't know. And it was like weird. It was like right around the timing that I remember, right around the timing that he was killed off from the show. So I don't know if they knew something and were like getting ahead of it and decided to kill him off. I don't know.
Speaker 2:But I thought that was a little suspicious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I didn't care because, like I said, I don't care about big, but it is kind of weird. Yeah, like you just had this whole, and like the whole movie was like all about, like is she with big, is she not? And they have this big ending. They have this big ending on the show too, and then they had a big ending on the movie and then it's like what same with like miranda and steve, I don't know yeah, it's just hard because that show was such a moment in time and I'm I just feel like, in general, anytime you try to do a reboot, like it is, it's good.
Speaker 1:I get why they did it, but it's a different show. Like we don't you watch sex in the city, you're not necessarily watching it to watch women in their 50s and 60s like go through their new, like brain. It's just a different show. Like we don't you watch sex in the city. You're not necessarily watching it to watch women in their fifties and sixties like go through their new, like it's just a different thing. And then like true, yeah, samantha was such a character that brought that specific like edginess and sexiness to the show and now that they don't have that, it just like I don't have any interest to. Really I watched the first. It was fine. I didn't hate it as much as like people did. I agree with you, but I'm not running to my tv to watch these last two seasons like I don't really care yeah, yeah, same here.
Speaker 2:I love the sex in the city movie, though that's like one of my favorite movies totally no.
Speaker 2:The show and the original show like is such a comfort show I could watch that show all the time I don't know, though I will say like I could, but at the same time sometimes, like I feel like sex in the city did not age well, like sometimes I especially the beginning seasons, like if you try to start it from season one when she narrates the camera, like yeah, that's terrible, and then I don't know. I just feel like in the beginning especially, it's so much about like men and like guys, and like I get that that's what they were like trying to do, cause it was a different time then when it came out. But now I'm just like, can you guys talk about something else besides men? Like in reality, when four women are hanging out, they do not talk about men the entire time. Oh, one thousand percent.
Speaker 2:And that's what they do on the show so like sometimes it like I'm like okay, like come on, women, that's totally fair. So yeah, that's why sometimes I'm like I feel like it didn't age well, but the later seasons are are good and I can appreciate it for what it is. I love their friendship. That's the best part of the show for me totally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I hundred. I I agree with everything you're saying, one thousand percent I also.
Speaker 2:I will say I feel like I wish that show was it was like more about the four of them rather than like Carrie is the main one.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's the other thing. I mean, I think the cultural like conversation around Carrie Bradshaw has changed. I feel like when the show came out, people wanted to like, quote, unquote, like be the Carrie you know, like when you would be like, oh, which one are you?
Speaker 1:I feel like Carrie was the. Everyone loved Carrie. Now I think when people talk about Carrie Bradshaw, they're just like pointing out her flaws, like what a selfish, like friend she is and like all these terrible things. So I don't know. I think that's also like reflective of how people look at the show just in general. But yeah, it hasn't aged well, yeah, no, I mean, I get that and I think that's part of why they like wanted to go into like the other. They like went so far on the other direction of like trying to make it relevant and representative and all the things. But yeah, I don't think drop the ball and just like it's just they can, they could do that the best they could, but like it doesn't change the fact that the show is. It's a different show. Like we're not watching women in their 30s like having sex in new york city.
Speaker 1:It's just I don't know but anyway, moving on, rip, I'm pretty interested in this. So this is actually some podcast news. Alex earl seemingly confirms feud with alex cooper. Have you heard about this? Yeah, I actually did see this. So, basically, rumors of a fallout between the two influencers first began when alex earl ex the Hot Mess podcast, which was a podcast that was backed by Alex Cooper's Unwell Network. Alex Earl was like one of the first, if not the first, people signed to Alex Cooper's Unwell Network when she first launched it. She first signed with them in 2023. Launched it, she first signed with them in 2023.
Speaker 1:And the reason that it's getting news now is because Alex Earl put a TikTok up and she was talking about which I love this because you know astrology queen. She was sitting in a car in the video and she says my co-star app, which is like an astrology app, told me that I can start shit. Today. She said I mean, is this the time that I've been waiting for to go? I have so much information we could go. And then she said I wake up every day and I'm like, what should I do, co-star? And today it's like revenge, let's go get him.
Speaker 1:And then a fan commented on that video and said yes, tell us what happened with Alex Cooper. And she responded to that fan comment directly and said how much time do you have? So I mean it definitely seems like something is happening there. It should be noted that Alex Cooper was asked about this back in March and she responded to the rumors and she said Alex Earl not being able to podcast has nothing to do with the business dealings and that once he was brought in maybe he saw that there was something wrong with either like their contract or their agreement and he was like a catalyst for this split.
Speaker 2:But that has not been confirmed, like I haven't seen anyone confirm that online, but that's a rumor that doesn't sound good for Alex Earl.
Speaker 1:I feel like when the parents get involved, it doesn't end well. It's a bummer, because I feel like these two I love Call Her Daddy I mean we talked about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like Alex Cooper. I don't really know Alex Earl. I don't understand her, I don't understand her world. I guess I don't understand why people like her.
Speaker 1:No, that's totally fair. She you know what it is, cause I I do follow her on Tik TOK. Um, she's just very like she's. She seems very real, Like when she was she was posting as just a senior in college, at university of Miami, like that's. I mean, she started doing Tik TOK as just you know, for fun, like, and she would just post so much and she, but she was just very like, genuine and real, like the whole time.
Speaker 1:She's an interesting watch, like she's I don't know, I don't know how to describe it Like and she is interesting to watch. But I think it's because, like, her brand is that she is just very like a regular, regular girl but living this like very unusual life now where she's like jet setting everywhere. But I like her, I think that I mean, and also her background is kind of interesting. So her father I don't know what he does, but when she was in, I think, middle school or elementary school, he had an affair with I think it was like the New York City mayor. It was some big politician and so her family was under like a ton of scrutiny when she was young and she was like we went through it because it was everywhere. So I don't know if that's like part of why she has like some thick skin from early on, but but I like her, why she has like some thick skin from early on, but but I like her.
Speaker 2:Does she have plastic surgery? Like? She looks to me, like she's just like, has a lot of like inject injectables and like it's very fake, made up Probably, but like she looks way older than she is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think she's 24. Yeah, she, I feel, yeah she, I feel like she's what she looks like. She's like 30. Yeah, well, but so, but like to that point, like she just posted the other day, like her going to get her hair extensions in and out, and like she's just very real about it. She's like I've always created this hair and she's like I'm so worried my hair is gonna be like dead and you like see her get it changed and she's just, yeah, like she's not hiding any of it. I don't know if she's done, I don't know what she's done for, like botox or fillers or plastic surgery, but like I wouldn't be surprised if she did do it, knowing her brand, that she would just tell people about it that makes sense.
Speaker 1:I can appreciate that yeah, but something must have happened like this is you know, this is very ominous.
Speaker 2:It is. I mean, it seems like Alex Earl is trying to like drum up publicity about it a little bit more, like it could be just her trying to like get her name out there, because I mean, that's kind of how she has to stay relevant. Yeah, but yeah, because I feel like Alex yeah, alex responded and was like oh no, that wasn't it at all. Like I don't know why she's like. I feel like her answer was very normal and like fine, and she hasn't nodded to the drama.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It seems like alex earl thinks this is a much bigger deal than alex cooper. No, that's totally fair. Well, so the only thing I should have put this in, the only thing that alex cooper has said that has like alluded to it, is she was, I think it was like a new york post interview or something, but she someone did say like asked her about it and she said it was like a little bit of a hot mess behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:Cooper said that she was like oh yeah, that because the podcast was named hot mess, yeah, and so she was like oh yeah, I mean it was just kind of like a hot mess behind the scenes. So I don't know, like maybe, but I I know you mean like alex earl's resurfacing this. This has been dead for months and she's like she knows what she's doing, she's actively bringing this back into the conversation. Yeah, I don't know, maybe that's like a marketing ploy to like for like it honestly wouldn't be a bad idea to start talking about it a little bit and then, you know, drop the news that she's relaunching the podcast and then do like a tell all for like the first episode yeah Right Publicity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally so. We'll see what happens, but that's the latest with them, our last story. This is a quick one and then we're going to get into our summer. I turned pretty episode for recap, but Mandy Moore was in a hit and run um with her family. Basically, she posted on her Instagram story on August 1st that to the woman who rear ended my family and drove off when we pulled over hope your karma finds you. Thankfully, everyone was okay, but what kind of human does that Um? Mandy Moore shares three children with her husband. She has a son, gus, who's four, oscar, aka Ozzy, who's two, and then Lou, who's 10 months. Also, the family has been through kind of a tough year. Their house was one of the ones that was burned down in January.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, during the LA wildfires.
Speaker 2:So yeah, damn Well, mandy moore, for putting that mean old lady on blast I know I was like you go girl.
Speaker 1:I feel like she's not afraid to like say stuff like that. She said something about after the fires, amazon like delivered a package to her family's address but the you know the house has had burned down and she posted about that too and was like Amazon do better. So it's I feel like she's like not afraid to like say what she thinks online.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean side note. I don't understand why that's Amazon's fault, but I guess neither here nor there Change your address. Go on the app and change your address, maybe.
Speaker 1:Well, I, I guess, like she was was like it's insensitive to deliver a package to a house that's burned down, like read the like, read the neighborhood, but it's like what's? They have a package to deliver, like yeah I think I have heard the opposite like almost like kudos to amazon because you're delivering even yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But the hit and run is definitely fair. I wonder if that person like I mean that person must know it was that. I wonder if they knew that they like hit Mandy Moore, I know. Or if they were like now they're figuring out and they're like, oh my God, that was me.
Speaker 1:No, for real. Oh my God, that would suck, that would suck.
Speaker 2:I oh my God, that would suck. That would suck. I could never do that. Yeah, I don't think I could either. No, I couldn't.
Speaker 1:I really don't think I could. I would feel so bad. I mean, I believe in karma enough I believe in karma.
Speaker 2:Enough that, like karma, karma's going to get that person, karma's going to track you down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Karma's like a bounty hunter.
Speaker 2:Step by step from town to town. So you go, mandy, yeah, keep doing it.
Speaker 1:Keep, uh, keep posting about those hit and run people, mandy, yeah, take them down, don't let them get away with it. But okay, now, uh, we are going into our final, final segment of the episode. It is the time, it is time for our summer. I turn pretty recap. We're recapping episode four, honestly not my favorite episode yeah, and I'm honestly like wait.
Speaker 2:So you, you read the book right a while ago I did read the book, yeah yeah, and I'm like, I feel like there are still like eight episodes left in this season I know. No, there is, and I'm yeah, and I'm like they're like a good way. I don't. I also I don't fully remember the book, first of all, but I'm like how are they gonna make eight more episodes out of this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is kind of the book. What we're in right now, I don't know. I mean, I feel like maybe they have the Steven and Taylor storyline that wasn't in the book, so that gives them a whole thing. I also kind of am curious if Laurel and her ex-husband if there's anything happening there oh yeah, I feel like they're going to get together. To me it feels like they're teeing up for that. Yeah, everyone wants that. Yeah, so maybe, but I don't remember that happening in the book.
Speaker 2:I don't remember that in the book either, but I do like her mom being against the wedding was like a huge storyline in the book.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well. So basically in episode four, like the main things that happen is like at the end of episode three. Belly has told her family that they're getting married and it's a huge blow up. Her mom demands that she goes home to Philly with her and Jeremiah stays in Boston and he starts interning at his dad's firm. So episode four opens with Belly living at home. She's like working doubles, trying to save everything she can for the wedding and it's Belly's 21st birthday. Laurel is like, not supportive of the wedding whatsoever. Belly wants to go wedding dress shopping with her on the day of her birthday and Laurel says no, like she, she won't come, she won't support the marriage. So then, in terms of like the Belly Jeremiah, jeremiah comes to Philly to surprise belly on her birthday and is trying to convince Laurel to change her mind, but it erupts in like this massive fight and Laurel ends up saying, like she, she's not even going to come to the wedding, and then belly and Jer leave together and they go to cousins. I mean, I understand Laurel here. I do too.
Speaker 2:I mean even as the viewer, like maybe just because I'm team Conrad, so we'd have to ask someone who's team Jeremiah. But like I feel like I'm kind of secretly like rooting for the mom to win, oh, yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Because I'm like this wedding is stupid, yeah. But at the same time I can see like that her dad's, like belly's dad, is like I'm gonna go to the wedding regardless, like part of me is like laurel laurel, like you know, put up the good fight, you're doing the right thing. And like stick in your morals and stand your ground. But at the same time I'm like it's not like she's marrying some guy who's, like you know, on drugs or gonna hurt her, or like you know they don't. It's not like they don't like the guy. So I'm like maybe laurel's being a little extreme yeah, like that's a good point, it's not.
Speaker 1:it's almost like your second son is who she's marrying. So it's not like you don't like the guy, but I do, I. I like their point of like, okay, maybe be engaged, sure, but why are you rushing to get married? Yeah, in three, you know, yeah Right, there's like no need, there's no need. Oh, and then she wants to forego her Paris plans because she doesn't want to be away when they're married, which is just like you know, I hate that Dumb, yeah, so dumb.
Speaker 1:Like Lauren Conrad from the Hills all over again, yeah, but then they go to Cousin's yeah, so. But then they go to cousin's beach. So they do go there and, lo and behold, conrad is staying at the beach. So Jeremiah asked him to be his best man and he kind of like I felt like the scene in the ocean with Jeremiah and Conrad, like Conrad was trying to be a supportive brother and like I felt like when he said it is kind of ridiculous, like it's just what everyone's thinking yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean I'm glad that they all had that reaction to like even Steven, yes, taylor and Conrad.
Speaker 1:Like episode kind of ends with he conrad is like gonna leave cousins once belly and jeremiah show up. He doesn't, you know, it's too much for him. So he books a flight to go back he's got a job, you know, back at um, wherever he is in california. But he hears belly crying as he's about to leave, and that scene was so sweet. I just love conrad. I know that was sad, he's so cute, he's so cute, he's so cute. And so he sees her crying and so then he changes his mind and tells Jeremiah he'll be the best man. And at the end of the episode he tells Belly this and she hugs him and it's like very clear that that hug is some type of catalyst.
Speaker 2:It's like hard yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, and he realizes he still loves her. My thing with this at this point, and one thing I've seen online, is they say that in the books, belly never sleeps with conrad or jeremiah. Oh really, yeah, that she's. She has not slept with either of them, and I don't think that her and jeremiah have been dating as long as they are in the series. I think it's like two years, not four years yeah, that that might be right so I like I'm where I'm at is like at this point.
Speaker 1:Her and jeremiah have been together for four years. Like how in the world do you go back to his brother? Like in what?
Speaker 2:it just is too much I know and I feel like her and conrad were like barely together oh, I know they, they were, they had like yeah, was it like a month?
Speaker 1:I don't even know and like if someone were to tell you the story without watching the show and you're like, okay, so she was with, she was in. She grew up being in love with the brother. The older brother crush on him forever. They dated a little bit but he broke. He broke things off and now she's been dating the younger brother for four years. You would think it's so weird that if she went back to the older one, yeah, I mean, if anything, it's kind of mean to date the younger brother.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know he's home college and I don't know. And then just I, don't know, you know this going to mess Jare up because he already has that insecurity to Conrad. He has like that inferiority complex already.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true I, and this is why I'm rooting for Steven and Taylor yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's definitely like some something going on with Steven and his co-worker they're trying to allude to. Oh yeah, but Steven and Taylor are endgame. There's no doubt in my mind like they will end up together at the end of the show I like taylor's mom in it too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just love taylor. Okay, wait, can you answer me something, though? Like yeah, remember, like I don't know if it's last episodes or two episodes ago she was like she called steven to have him like help her books and she, but she was kind of like making us like. It seemed like she was like she called steven to have him like help her books and she, but she was kind of like making us like. It seemed like she was trying to like get them to like talk. Oh yeah, steven, like secretly, like get them talking and was using that as the the reason. But then, like it's kind of gone on and on that, she has like these death problems. So I was like, is she lying or something like no, I think that she was.
Speaker 1:No, I think her intention was to get together to talk, but she didn't realize because her ex-husband or her ex-boyfriend handled everything just like how bad she was in.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so she's not like oh, ha, ha, ha anymore.
Speaker 1:No, I think that she, because it like seems like even in this last episode it's like she's just not responsible, Like she's aware now that all of this is happening, but even it shows like the mom wants to go like shopping and like doesn't want to take care of what she needs to take care of. So Taylor has to leave her inter internship in Boston, new York, to stay at home and help her mom with the salon. I don't think it's like the mom is malicious or has any like. I don't think she had any like malintent. I just think that she's not responsible and like this episode shows it, because she's just like wanting to go shop and even though she's in like so much financial debt.
Speaker 1:I like having the mom in it, though. It's a good dynamic. Yeah, I think it. Yeah, I agree, and I think it gives more like context to like Taylor and why she is the way she is. I mean, she's my favorite. So, uh, any more of their storyline I'm in, but hopefully this next episode I'm hoping we get a really good. I want a conrad heavy episode. I think that's what I'm missing from this season.
Speaker 1:It's like he's in it, but I need something. He needs to be more. He's like barely in it that I like the scenes best when it's all of them together, but I want the scenes with him and belly, so I'm like really hoping that this next episode they're both in cousins he hasn't gone home yet and they can we can see a little bit of their dynamic yeah, from what I'm remembering, I feel like that's what happened in the book.
Speaker 2:Like jeremiah had to go, like back and forth, but like belly and conrad were there a lot alone for the most of the summer. Let's hope so I'm. I feel like that.
Speaker 1:Hopefully is coming well, that's all we have time for today. Thanks everyone for staying and snitching with us. Sorry if my voice was a little cracky today, bad and a little bit of an illness, and I'm feeling the need to disclaimer that now at the end of the episode. But thanks for staying with us and snitching with us and we'll be back on Wednesday with yet again another guest host or not guest host. Another guest host and or not guest host another guest, so we can't wait for that.
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